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RYXI > Hard Drives, IDE, SCSI, RAID > Rack mounted server for SATA 25 February 2006 01:38:35

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Rack mounted server for SATA

Rob Nicholson 27 January 2006 13:47:00
 Anyone know of a manufacturer of a dual Pentium rack mounted server that can
take 4 x SATA hard disks plus a boot drive (an IDE or another SATA)? We've
got a dual AMD Athlon MP system with lots of disk space as a secondary
storage server and we're not happy with the stability of the system -
probably that dual AMD bit :-)­ It's free standing as well at the moment. So
we're looking to buy another server for the rack without any hard disks into
which we can transfer the existing SATA disks.

Ohh, would be useful if it could take a PCI SCSI card which we have in there
as well.

Thanks, Rob.



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Odie Ferrous 27 January 2006 16:32:45 permanent link ]
 Rob Nicholson wrote:>
Anyone know of a manufacturer of a dual Pentium rack mounted server that can> take 4 x SATA hard disks plus a boot drive (an IDE or another SATA)? We've> got a dual AMD Athlon MP system with lots of disk space as a secondary> storage server and we're not happy with the stability of the system -> probably that dual AMD bit :-)­ It's free standing as well at the moment. So> we're looking to buy another server for the rack without any hard disks into> which we can transfer the existing SATA disks.>
Ohh, would be useful if it could take a PCI SCSI card which we have in there> as well.>
Thanks, Rob.

Cue rb.


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Rob Nicholson 4 February 2006 18:16:24 permanent link ]
 
Ohh, would be useful if it could take a PCI SCSI card which we have in > there> as well.

We're going to go for an Antec rackmount case and move the existing
motherboard and drives into it.

Cheers, Rob.


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Dan Adams 5 February 2006 02:22:04 permanent link ]
 If system stability is the issue you really should at least get a new
MoBo/CPU/Memory combination.

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Rob Nicholson 6 February 2006 13:06:57 permanent link ]
 
If system stability is the issue you really should at least get a new> MoBo/CPU/Memory combination.

Actually - we're tempted to do this as part of the problem with the existing
server could be motherboard related.

Rob.


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Jim 7 February 2006 07:53:39 permanent link ]
 Could be? Unless it's a heat related issue and the new chassis is much
better cooled than the existing one, then you're chasing your tail.
Generally speaking, moving from a tower to a rackmount case, you're not
likely to get better cooling - usually it's the opposite.

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Rob Nicholson 8 February 2006 12:02:54 permanent link ]
 
Could be? Unless it's a heat related issue and the new chassis is much> better cooled than the existing one, then you're chasing your tail.> Generally speaking, moving from a tower to a rackmount case, you're not> likely to get better cooling - usually it's the opposite.

No, it's more of a feeling that the Dual Athlon MP motherboard setup really
never took off and therefore I don't think this particular environment was
subjected to the same level of support as other dual CPU systems. The Athlon
MPs do run incredibly hot.

It's generally just a flaky system :-)­ They happen.

Cheers, Rob.


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Curious George 17 February 2006 07:19:16 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 09:02:54 +0000 (UTC), "Rob Nicholson"
<rob.nicholson@nosp­am_informed-direct.c­om> wrote:
Could be? Unless it's a heat related issue and the new chassis is much>> better cooled than the existing one, then you're chasing your tail.>> Generally speaking, moving from a tower to a rackmount case, you're not>> likely to get better cooling - usually it's the opposite.>
No, it's more of a feeling that the Dual Athlon MP motherboard setup really >never took off and therefore I don't think this particular environment was >subjected to the same level of support as other dual CPU systems. The Athlon >MPs do run incredibly hot.>
It's generally just a flaky system :-)­ They happen.


They were. Kinda. The first MP chipset based (tyan boards) were very
stable - If you jumped through the right hoops, kept things simple,
and proactively dealt with some of their design problems. For example
Northbridge tended to overheat causing stability & corruption problems
- so Tyan added a heatsink on later revisions. Smart early adopters
added one also, but the Tyan heatsink was pure crap. Tyan supplied
something with an extremely rough contact surface and so much thermal
goop it insulated the chip. Then if you added powerful PCI cards you
melted the ATX connector. And don't get me started about the video
bugs.

MPX was a little different because that was open to different
manufacturers. But the even the first revisions came out with that
dang USB issue...

At the time they were cheap, stable, & powerful - or rather ppl either
had great builds or great headaches.

After enduring all that treat yourself:
http://www.supermic­ro.com/products/syst­em/
http://www.supermic­ro.com/products/chas­sis/
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Rob Nicholson 17 February 2006 17:06:58 permanent link ]
 
melted the ATX connector. And don't get me started about the video> bugs.

There is a real weird quirk with the BIOS of our Tyan board. It responds
incredibly slowly to key presses. We've got a password on there and when you
go into the BIOS and enter the password you have to go press 1st key, wait a
second, press 2nd key, wait a second etc. Otherwise instead of typing
DIETCOKE (not our password btw) you get DTK
At the time they were cheap, stable, & powerful - or rather ppl either> had great builds or great headaches.

We're in the headache brigaide :-)­

Cheers, Rob.


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Curious George 18 February 2006 00:15:06 permanent link ]
 Which board are you using? Did the keyboard delay always exist?
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Rob Nicholson 20 February 2006 18:28:18 permanent link ]
 
Which board are you using? Did the keyboard delay always exist?

Tiger MPX S2466N-4M motherboard.

No, I don't think the delay existed until we purchased one of the video
cards recommended by Tyan :-)­ This server has always been a bit unstable and
it failed completely over the weekend. We think it might be the PSU (which
would explain an AWFUL lot) so I've got a new 550W one sat on my desk ready
to be installed in a few hours.

Cheers, Rob.


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