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Dolphy 10 May 2006 05:28:20
 Hi All,

Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?

Rgds
Dolphy

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bIGGy 10 May 2006 06:30:23 permanent link ]
 Dolphy wrote:> Hi All,>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
Rgds> Dolphy>

If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS
before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a
foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!

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John Jay Smith 10 May 2006 06:47:09 permanent link ]
 use Linux

"Dolphy" <Kyrpto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147224500.377­753.77120@j33g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> Hi All,>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
Rgds> Dolphy>


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KeithS 10 May 2006 10:10:33 permanent link ]
 Dolphy wrote:> Hi All,>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
Rgds> Dolphy>

http://windizupdate­.com/

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Newfdog 10 May 2006 19:03:15 permanent link ]
 bIGGy wrote:> Dolphy wrote:>> Hi All,>>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>>
Rgds>> Dolphy>>
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS > before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a > foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!>
always works.........lol. If you visit some windows groups you will find
that this is not the case. MS is pissing off more and more legitimate
customers with these validation tools etc. They are causing loads of
problems for people with legit copies of windows. As usual MS is
displaying the one true american value........ greed.

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Marten Kemp 10 May 2006 20:12:30 permanent link ]
 Newfdog wrote:
bIGGy wrote:>
Dolphy wrote:>>
Hi All,>>>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>>>
Rgds>>> Dolphy>>>
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS >> before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a >> foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!>>
always works.........lol. If you visit some windows groups you will find > that this is not the case. MS is pissing off more and more legitimate > customers with these validation tools etc. They are causing loads of > problems for people with legit copies of windows. As usual MS is > displaying the one true american value........ greed.

Not so. The *two* true American business values are
greed and arrogance.

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Hansen 10 May 2006 20:21:22 permanent link ]
 
"Newfdog" <newfdog2nospam@war­p.nfld.net> wrote in message
news:Tgn8g.5923$A26­.150663@ursa-nb00s0.­nbnet.nb.ca...>>
MS is pissing off more and more legitimate customers with these validation >tools etc. They are causing loads of problems for people with legit copies >of windows.

As with all urban legends everybody knows sombody who knows somebody who's
cousin's brother has this problem. Yet nobody has texperimented this problem
himself :-)­


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Younggod 10 May 2006 21:17:49 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 10 May 2006 18:21:22 +0200, "Hansen"
<hansen@donotspamme­.sucker.com> wrote:
"Newfdog" <newfdog2nospam@war­p.nfld.net> wrote in message >news:Tgn8g.5923$A2­6.150663@ursa-nb00s0­.nbnet.nb.ca...>>>
MS is pissing off more and more legitimate customers with these validation >>tools etc. They are causing loads of problems for people with legit copies >>of windows.>
As with all urban legends everybody knows sombody who knows somebody who's >cousin's brother has this problem. Yet nobody has texperimented this problem >himself :-)­ >

Well, I have a legit copy of XP and it doesn't work. But you might not
believe me ;)


younggod
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Hansen 10 May 2006 21:30:09 permanent link ]
 
"younggod" <younggod@alt.binar­ies.old.games> wrote in message
news:yuWdnShM050Ugv­_ZnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@s­carlet.biz...>
Well, I have a legit copy of XP and it doesn't work. But you might not> believe me ;)


Why should I? This is after all a newsgroup. Record the process as a video
and publish it for all too see. i can provide space in my site. Of course
you won't do that, 'cause it's hard to fake such a thing.


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Craig 10 May 2006 21:55:00 permanent link ]
 Hansen wrote:
"Newfdog" <newfdog2nospam@war­p.nfld.net> wrote in message > news:Tgn8g.5923$A26­.150663@ursa-nb00s0.­nbnet.nb.ca...>
MS is pissing off more and more legitimate customers with these validation >>tools etc. They are causing loads of problems for people with legit copies >>of windows.>
As with all urban legends everybody knows sombody who knows somebody who's > cousin's brother has this problem. Yet nobody has texperimented this problem > himself :-)­ >

As with all sweeping generalizations, their progenitors hope to nullify
valid discussion.

I'll grant the probability that most of the people experiencing XP
validation problems are those with black market copies. But it's just
plain ignorant to assert that it hasn't occured to people with
legitimate licenses.

-Craig




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Hansen 10 May 2006 22:06:14 permanent link ]
 
"Craig" <netburgherAT@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:UNp8g.24788$4L­1.6822@newssvr11.new­s.prodigy.com...> Hansen wrote:>>
I'll grant the probability that most of the people experiencing XP > validation problems are those with black market copies. But it's just > plain ignorant to assert that it hasn't occured to people with legitimate > licenses.


Well, I'll be the first one to admit that there may be cases. But they are a
very insignificant minory who can solve it's problem with a simple no-cost
phone call or a fax wit the serial number of the product.

I administer a lan with 1289 XP computers with all possible hardware
configurations and on of them had this "problem". Nor any of my co-workers
at home had any problems. But some of them told me that they know X who
knows Y that knows Z that has this poblem. Then when you meet tX they look
at you "what are you talking about"... As wit all urban legends there is a
bit of true but VEEEERRRRRRYYYYYY magnified.


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Craig 10 May 2006 22:31:54 permanent link ]
 Hansen wrote:
"Craig" <netburgherAT@gmail­.com> wrote in message > news:UNp8g.24788$4L­1.6822@newssvr11.new­s.prodigy.com...>
Hansen wrote:>>
I'll grant the probability that most of the people experiencing XP>> validation problems are those with black market copies. But it's>> just plain ignorant to assert that it hasn't occured to people with>> legitimate licenses.>
Well, I'll be the first one to admit that there may be cases.

It is not "may be." Rather, there /are/ cases.
But they are a very insignificant minory who can solve it's> problem...

Only insignificant to those who have not experienced it.

-Craig
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Younggod 11 May 2006 00:06:06 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 10 May 2006 20:06:14 +0200, "Hansen"
<hansen@donotspamme­.sucker.com> wrote:
"Craig" <netburgherAT@gmail­.com> wrote in message >news:UNp8g.24788$4­L1.6822@newssvr11.ne­ws.prodigy.com...>> Hansen wrote:>>>
I'll grant the probability that most of the people experiencing XP >> validation problems are those with black market copies. But it's just >> plain ignorant to assert that it hasn't occured to people with legitimate >> licenses.>
Well, I'll be the first one to admit that there may be cases.

Ah, I see.
But they are a >very insignificant minory who can solve it's problem with a simple no-cost >phone call or a fax wit the serial number of the product.>
I administer a lan with 1289 XP computers with all possible hardware >configurations and on of them had this "problem". Nor any of my co-workers >at home had any problems. But some of them told me that they know X who >knows Y that knows Z that has this poblem. Then when you meet tX they look >at you "what are you talking about"... As wit all urban legends there is a >bit of true but VEEEERRRRRRYYYYYY magnified. >


younggod
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M . L . 11 May 2006 04:28:02 permanent link ]
 
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS >before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a >foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!

But that still doesn't *bypass* WGA.
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M . L . 11 May 2006 05:26:49 permanent link ]
 
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?

Only appears to check for critical Windows updates and Firefox-related
updates. It does not allow one to download or update apps that must
pass WGA.
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Elaich 11 May 2006 06:13:25 permanent link ]
 "Hansen" <hansen@donotspamme­.sucker.com> wrote in
news:e3t3o3$9ul$1@h­udsucker.umdac.umu.s­e:
"Newfdog" <newfdog2nospam@war­p.nfld.net> wrote in message > news:Tgn8g.5923$A26­.150663@ursa-nb00s0.­nbnet.nb.ca...>>>
MS is pissing off more and more legitimate customers with these>>validation tools etc. They are causing loads of problems for people>>with legit copies of windows.>
As with all urban legends everybody knows sombody who knows somebody> who's cousin's brother has this problem. Yet nobody has texperimented> this problem himself :-)­ >

And you, as usual, are full of crap. If that's true, why was a link to a
Windows forum explaining a fix to this problem posted here just a few
weeks ago?
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Patrick 11 May 2006 07:04:39 permanent link ]
 Dolphy wrote:
Hi All,>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>

Yes, purchase a legal copy of windows.

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?»Q?« 11 May 2006 07:13:12 permanent link ]
 M.L. <me@privacy.net> wrote in
<news:ul1562ha2bo7o­p9eqh87qvrl2p5ufk7ta­l@4ax.com>:
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
Only appears to check for critical Windows updates and> Firefox-related updates. It does not allow one to download or> update apps that must pass WGA.

It checks for at least some drivers and non-critical updates. It
offered me a couple of updates to my printer drivers last month, and a
few non-critical Windows updates this year.

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?»Q?« 11 May 2006 07:26:52 permanent link ]
 bIGGy <invalid@invalid.co­m> wrote in
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Dolphy wrote:
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS> before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a> foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!

Only for relatively small values of "always". A couple months back,
Windows Update wanted to install a new version of the WGA Validation
Tool for me before it would proceed. The install failed, and it's
failed every time I've tried since.

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Terry Russell 11 May 2006 08:42:00 permanent link ]
 
"»Q«" <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:MrQ97BFE45A0B9­4itsmeitsQ@QsFQDN.dy­ndns.org...> bIGGy <invalid@invalid.co­m> wrote in> <news:4cd1i0F14mpkp­U1@individual.net>:>­
Dolphy wrote:>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows OS>> before allowing you to download patches and software, there is a>> foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of Windows!>
Only for relatively small values of "always". A couple months back,> Windows Update wanted to install a new version of the WGA Validation> Tool for me before it would proceed. The install failed, and it's> failed every time I've tried since.

Then just run system restore, or use the built-in ultra reliable backup
system to
load a bootdrive image from cd/dvd/other media . [ ;-)­ ]

maybe your problem can be this ?
( or otherwise worked around from there )

http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p
there you can select a basket of updates for offline use


xp sp2 section

Update for Windows XP (KB910437) - (Posted Date: December 08, 2005)
Download size: 1.1 MB
Install this update to prevent or resolve an issue in which Windows Update
and Automatic Updates can no longer download updates after an Access
Violation error occurs when using the Automatic Updates service. After you
install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

An update update update.




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?»Q?« 11 May 2006 10:59:24 permanent link ]
 "Terry Russell" <trochilus@RoEpMtOu­VsEnet.com.au> wrote in
<news:4462c048$0$30­27$afc38c87@news.opt­usnet.com.au>:
"?»Q?«" <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote in message> news:MrQ97BFE45A0B9­4itsmeitsQ@QsFQDN.dy­ndns.org...>> bIGGy <invalid@invalid.co­m> wrote in>> <news:4cd1i0F14mpkp­U1@individual.net>:>­>
Dolphy wrote:>>
Anyone know of an effective way to bypass Windows Advantage?>
If you are referring to the way Microsoft validates your Windows>>> OS before allowing you to download patches and software, there>>> is a foolproof method that always works. Buy a legal copy of>>> Windows!>>
Only for relatively small values of "always". A couple months>> back, Windows Update wanted to install a new version of the WGA>> Validation Tool for me before it would proceed. The install>> failed, and it's failed every time I've tried since.>
Then just run system restore, or use the built-in ultra reliable> backup system to load a bootdrive image from cd/dvd/other> media . [ ;-)­ ]

Backups from that long ago have already been overwritten. This
isn't a problem I'm trying to solve. I was just pointing out that
it's not a "foolproof method that always works".
maybe your problem can be this ?> ( or otherwise worked around from there )>
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p> there you can select a basket of updates for offline use

No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an
administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged on
as an administrator.
xp sp2 section>
Update for Windows XP (KB910437) - (Posted Date: December 08,> 2005) Download size: 1.1 MB

It was installed on 13 December.

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Porytu Cotem 11 May 2006 15:01:06 permanent link ]
 M.L. <me@privacy.net>
Only appears to check for critical Windows updates and Firefox-related> updates. It does not allow one to download or update apps that must> pass WGA.

Can't get it to work with K-Meleon. K-Meleon crashes before the actual
scan has even started.

Porytu Cotem
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Qutickle 11 May 2006 15:11:21 permanent link ]
 ?»Q?« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p> > there you can select a basket of updates for offline use>
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged on> as an administrator.

Same here.

Qutickle
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Powerstation 11 May 2006 15:33:26 permanent link ]
 
"Qutickle" <Qutickle.thethird@­hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dt6662hrvmnfrd­trh1cdl116mu9640oem9­@4ax.com...> »Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:>
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p>> > there you can select a basket of updates for offline use>>
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an>> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged on>> as an administrator.>
Same here.>
Qutickle

No your probably logged on as a user with administrator privileges not as
"the administrator" the two are different


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... Et Al. 11 May 2006 16:14:20 permanent link ]
 powerstation wrote:
"Qutickle" <Qutickle.thethird@­hotmail.com> wrote:>
?»Q?« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:>>
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p>>>> there you can select a basket of updates for offline use>>>
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an>>> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged on>>> as an administrator.>>
Same here.>>
Qutickle>
No your probably logged on as a user with administrator privileges not as > "the administrator" the two are different

[InOtherWords] We are more or less not allowed to use that site if we
have the 'Home Edition' Bundle of WinXP. :-(­

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Klaatu 11 May 2006 19:33:36 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 11 May 2006 11:33:26 GMT, powerstation posted to
alt.comp.freeware:
"Qutickle" <Qutickle.thethird@­hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:dt6662hrvmnfrd­trh1cdl116mu9640oem9­@4ax.com...>> ?»Q?« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:>>
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p there>>>> you can select a basket of updates for offline use>>>
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an>>> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged>>> on as an administrator.>>
Same here.>>
Qutickle>
No your probably logged on as a user with administrator privileges not> as "the administrator" the two are different

Sure, they're different, but that's like saying this apple is different
than that apple. They're both still apples. That's why there's such a
thing a the "Administrators" group. No program, and certainly no program
or update or anything from Microsoft, should require being logged in to
the "Administrator" account. All that should be required is that the
logged in account be a member of the "Administrators" group. I have seen
some programs so braindead (cough*Adobe*cough)­, they have a problem
installing if you're not logged in to the "Administrator" account itself.

As a long time LAN Administrator myself, I know of what I speak.

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Powerstation 11 May 2006 19:51:59 permanent link ]
 
"Klaatu" <klaatu@nospam.inva­lid> wrote in message
news:Xns97C0571401E­3Eklaatunospaminvali­d@127.0.0.1...> On Thu, 11 May 2006 11:33:26 GMT, powerstation posted to> alt.comp.freeware:>­
"Qutickle" <Qutickle.thethird@­hotmail.com> wrote in message>> news:dt6662hrvmnfrd­trh1cdl116mu9640oem9­@4ax.com...>>> »Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:>>>
http://v4.windowsup­date.microsoft.com/c­atalog/en/default.as­p there>>>>> you can select a basket of updates for offline use>>>>
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an>>>> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged>>>> on as an administrator.>>>
Same here.>>>
Qutickle>>
No your probably logged on as a user with administrator privileges not>> as "the administrator" the two are different>
Sure, they're different, but that's like saying this apple is different> than that apple. They're both still apples. That's why there's such a> thing a the "Administrators" group. No program, and certainly no program> or update or anything from Microsoft, should require being logged in to> the "Administrator" account. All that should be required is that the> logged in account be a member of the "Administrators" group. I have seen> some programs so braindead (cough*Adobe*cough)­, they have a problem> installing if you're not logged in to the "Administrator" account itself.>
As a long time LAN Administrator myself, I know of what I speak.>
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... No matter what happens, someone always knew it would.

I agree with you. I merely stated why the user could not get access to the
site I didn't make the rules !! Incidentally you don't actually have to log
into windows as the administrator just right click on the update icon and
select "run as" then select administrator hope this helps.


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Qutickle 12 May 2006 05:35:54 permanent link ]
 "powerstation" <power@station96.co­m.tw> wrote:
No, I can't. It tells me that I must be logged on as an> >> administrator in order to proceed, despite the fact that I'm logged on> >> as an administrator.> >
Same here.> >
Qutickle>
No your probably logged on as a user with administrator privileges not as > "the administrator" the two are different

No, I am the administrator.

Qutickle
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