Tuesday, 23 May 2006
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| Info about the new chips coming shortly? Boe 05:16:27 |
| | Hello,
A link was sent about the new AMD chips coming out next month and I'm very curious. Has Tom's or anyone done any reviews of the x2 5000 AM2 or any of the other chips. I realize they won't hit the street for another month but often reviews are available in advance.
Thanks
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Monday, 22 May 2006
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| RAID controllers - BIOS conflict - pls help Nobody@Nowhere.Net 10:26:02 |
| | "I have a MSI Master2-FAR (VIA K8T800 chipset) dual Opteron 242 system with boot drive on built-in VIA SATA RAID controller. I installed Promise FastTrak SX4100 (SATA RAID controller - 32 bit PCI, hardware RAID 5 engine) and 3 WD 250GB drives. When I configured the drives as RAID 5, I received the message "PCI ROM space is NOT enough", and then the board was unable to load VIA RAID controller to boot off it. However, when I connected the same drive to a free port on SX4100 instead of onboard SATA, the system booted just fine (Win2k), and both RAID controllers were in device manager. However this solution is not acceptable because my intent was to have bootable RAID1 on VIA and RAID5 on SX4100 reserved for data. Please let me know how to ensure that Promise SX4100 BIOS loads AFTER VIA SATA BIOS, so that my old boot configuration could be restored."
The msg above is a copy of what I sent to both MSI and Promise support. So far no reply from any of them.
Google/Yahoo have a couple of hits on "PCI ROM space is NOT enough", but only complaints and no solutions. Seems like Promise grabs so much memory out of whatever is allocated for BIOS that no other device can be loaded after that. Funny though that as long as no logical drive is defined, everything goes fine and VIA SATA is recognized on boot. Could not find anything in either SX4100 setup or mobo BIOS setup that would help. Could it be that VIA SATA sucks? Would another Promise/sil RAID controller solve the issue? All I want is RAID1 as system drive and RAID5 as data drive. I guess I could go SCSI for boot drive in worst case, but there is no guarantee that SCSI BIOS would not conflict with Promise BIOS, either.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
TIA
NNN
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| HTX Coprocessor for AMD The little lost angel 08:16:49 |
| | Just wondering, since HT can be used as a bus the way PCI-Express can, is there any reason why a coprocessor on a HT connection shoud not/ cannot be done in the way of a slot in card? Wouldn't this take up less board real estate and allow much more flexible designs since the card can be much bigger than a predefined socket size? -- A Lost Angel, fallen from heaven Lost in dreams, Lost in aspirations, Lost to the world, Lost to myself
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| Performance/price efficient quad-core Opteron setup Guest 00:01:50 |
| | Performance/price efficient quad-core Opteron setup:
I have build three 4-core presentation workstations; this is the most responsive-fast computer what can be built today with best ratio (performance*reliability) / (price*noise). The total cost = $2463 + (tax if applicable)
The correspondent hardware configuration and some tips can be found below:
//---------------- Hardware setup
MB ASUS K8N-DL (BIOS has to be updated to v7.0) $218 http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-K8N-DL&c=fr&pid=29806611f49e1ff041e612600a4ee60367fe4d2c14b42d0c9ef6f3a74e49763b
CPU 2 x Opteron 280 ( 2 X $749 ) https://www.shop.sanmicro.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=106&categoryId=5
4GB RAM 4 X 1GB/DDR400/ecc/reg $107 X 4 CM72SD1024RLP-3200 (Samsung chips K4H510838C-UCCC) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145310 OR $102 X 4 TS128MDR72V4J(Samsung chips K4H510838C-UCCC) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820208124
PSU JUST PC JPC-FP600S 600W RT $79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817181109
2 X CPU FAN AMD| TR2 M6 A4006D TR2 (Silver-5 has to be applied between aluminum heat-sink and cupper base) $7 X 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106604
$82 X 2 Western Digital (WD1600YD) designed for RAID http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150354&AFFIL=FRG&NR=1
$31.99 Case: XCLIO 6010BK (couple silent 80mm fan can be added) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811103005
$50 PCI-E Video card and CD costs about $50 (sufficient for my needs)
//---------------- Tips
If BIOS <7.0 the bios has to be updated to v7.0. (FD is required) Old BIOS can support one dual core CPU so, set in one Opteron280 in socket0 update BIOS to v7.0 then put second CPU in)
Populate 4 memory DIMMs A1B1 A3B3
The RAID-0 should be set on NVIDIA RAID (FD is required)
With memory recommended above the simple over-clocking below does not require any special voltage/timing tuning: - The memory latency can be set to CAS 2.5 (2.5-3-3-8-1) (BIOS settings) - The CPU speed can be set to 215 (provides free upgrade to Opteron 285) (BIOS settings) - Disable all spread spectrum options (BIOS settings) - Set only basic ECC options (for all banks) (BIOS settings)
To speed up booting: - Switch off all unused IDE - Switch off Silicon RAID controller (jumper on MB)
The ASUS web does not have the latest drivers for NVIDIA chipset I would recommend take the latest from TYAN website
http://www.tyan.com/support/html/drivers_support.html * nVidia Chipset * SATA RAID for nVidia nForce chipsets The SATA RAID-0 has to be saved on FD in order to install Windows on RAID ("press F6" procedure) Drivers can be taken directly from NVIDIA website; however there is some confusion what chipset package has to be used for k8n-dl.
Regards, Stefan
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Sunday, 21 May 2006
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| AMD Co-processors Del Cecchi 11:59:21 |
| | Seems as if they are considering it
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/article/CA6335452?nid=2019&rid=1242392919 -- Del Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn??™t necessarily represent IBM??™s positions, strategies or opinions.???
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Saturday, 20 May 2006
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| cooling p4 CPU Aamir 14:55:43 |
| | Helloo, my system has 1.7GHZ intel processor and problem is that it gets hot 50C and above some time . how can i cool it down the fan speed is 3600rpm.
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Thursday, 18 May 2006
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| K8L details emerge Yousuf Khan 12:26:59 |
| | Lessee what the highlights are: -shared L3 cache -quad-core -independent voltage regulation of the cores as well as the northbridge -48-bit addressing, 1GB page sizes -official coprocessor support through an HTX connector. -very flexible DDR2/DDR3/FBDIMM support -memory mirroring -data poisoning -HT retry -doubled FP units -prefetch tweaks
AMD shows off details of K8L "Next is memory. The new core will support 48-bit addressing and 1GB pages. Cray and SGI will be very happy with this, until they hit that memory wall again. There is also official co-processor support, strongly hinted to be on a HTX card. The key here will be the platform is aware of them vs having to hack them in." http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31761
Yousuf Khan
Yousuf Khan
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| The multi-core scalability issue with BIOS v1008 Guest 08:53:33 |
| | SBJ: The multi-core scalability issue with BIOS v1008:
After update BIOS from v.1007 to v.1008, the speed of heavily threaded applications, gets slower around ~ 1.48 times. All 4 cores are loaded only 55-70% comparatively to 90% with BIOS v1007. After flash back to BIOS v.1007 the speed gets normal as it was. This test has been performed extensively multiple times; the result is the same; v.1008 kills the multi-core scalability to the ground.
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Wednesday, 17 May 2006
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| Re: What "Parallel Hz" Really Is The little lost angel 18:45:44 |
| | On Fri, 12 May 2006 16:30:36 -0500, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
Isn't this like taking double/quadruple pumped bus and pipelining to>>the extreme?> --->Sounds like it, doesn't it? >I've got a feeling he doesn't know what he's talking about, tho... Then again, most likely neither do I PpP
Hey, little lost angel, welcome back. Where ya been? It's good to see you and the other guys from s.e.b/s.e.d. too!
I've been busy with study and work. Work's mostly design/programming & marketing leaving very little time to pursuit side hobbies like electronics. For a while I dropped off the radar on Usenet totally having had to spend more time tracking local web forums for marketing purposes and only been back in csiphc for a few months.
Hopefully I'll have some time to drop into seb/sed to bug you guys with more innate noobish ee questions on some stuff I've been wondering about PPp
<trimmed followup NG>
-- A Lost Angel, fallen from heaven Lost in dreams, Lost in aspirations, Lost to the world, Lost to myself
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Tuesday, 16 May 2006
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| Need for speed. Russel Sprout 21:53:52 |
| | Well not extreme speed, but a little better than I have now - AMD Athlon XP 2200+.
I am not interested in gaming or video/image manipulation, just pure umber crunching. I'm working on a project where a program is run several times, currently each run takes around 10 mins, CPU is running at 100%, but its not using much RAM (PC2100) and disk activity seems to be low. I'd like to cut this to 2 mins or below. Specifically I'm running degrib with the -prb swich, if that means anything to anyone. It decodes compressed weather model data in GRIB2 format, files are typically big, 32Mb.
Any sugestions, price is a consideration, but I'd like the best bang for bucks. The program is 32 bit, but I think there may be a 64 bit version and it may also be optimised for multiple proccesers.
TIA Steve
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| Beware "free" USB Flash drives George Macdonald 06:10:18 |
| | Hmm, so I got this 128MB USB 2.0 flash drive as a freeby - came as a "combo special" with an Athlon64 I bought from NewEgg - it's transparent green and has a NewEgg and AMD logo on it. I used it to bring a bunch of files home from the office to work on and first indication I got that anything was awry was a WinZip error saying this .ZIP is a continuation of a preceding volume in a multi-volume set... which I knew it wasn't.
WinXP's Error Check doesn't show errors or give a summary (yeah I forgot about Event Log at first) but CHKDSK /R gave a whole bunch of msgs about bad clusters. I tried writing a few large .ZIPs and they seemed OK then I tried a largish (200 files or so) directory structure and it was really a mess with CHKDSK /R. Only then did I look in the Event Log and find it was polluted with Bad Block msgs: "The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block"... usual M$ informative stuff!<shrug>
Funny I'd always thought those things would either work or not at all but I guess they're just as bad as magnetic media. The thing is I hadn't used this thing much so I'm not sure if it was bad to start with or not... though I suspect so. The annoying thing is that (full) Format does not complain and the Error Checking/Check Now/"Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors" and CHKDSK /R only find bad blocks if there are files stored in the bad areas.
I guess I'l lbe running CHKDSK /R on newly created files on flash drives for a while now.
-- Rgds, George Macdonald
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| The Theory Would Indicate Increased Performance; BUT! Guest 01:00:06 |
| | Ok, I want to believe there is, or would be, and increase in performance with the AMD dual core; but I've yet to experience it. I've tried:
Windows XP SP2 Windows XP 64 Vista 63 (latest build)
And I don't see it!
Do I regret the decision to go AMD dual core. Well not exactly, but I seriously doubt those claims that the future will be brighter.
What do I need four, eight or sixteen cores to see a real increase from any of Microsoft's offerings, or is it time to switch to...
Just some thoughts.
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Monday, 15 May 2006
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| MTBF question Dp 20:03:05 |
| | Slightly off topic, but since there was a long discussion on this subject under the heading "Dual Core Comparison," I thought I'd ask here first.
The MTBF number is good only if manufacturers are getting good reports from the field about their products, right?
If my drive fails and it's out of warranty (or perhaps it's in warranty and I can't find the paperwork to file the warranty claim) then I'm likely to just get what data I can off the drive, destroy it and/or throw it away. As a result, the manufacturer never knows the lifetime of my drive (or thousands, if not millions, of others).
Is MTBF just a number derived from lab testing? Obviously, it doesn't include those people who've had equipment failures and never notified the equipment manufacturer of the failure. How reliable then is "mean" under those circumstances?
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Sunday, 14 May 2006
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| AMD CPU David Brough 03:47:11 |
| | Hi
Hope this is right newsgroup
I bought a mobo on ebay that claimed to have a 133 AMD Duron processor. Various system analysis programmes show a speed of around 850mhz. Have I been conned?
Regards
David
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Saturday, 13 May 2006
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| K7s5a flashing problem Rubbie 17:19:22 |
| | Now I know this might not be directly related to this group, still i'm gonna try my luck in here.
I got a MB from a friend of mine, ECS K7s5a (ver 3.1). I installed an amd xp2200+. Booted the system and noticed that the cpu is running @ 1350 mhz. So i tried to flash the MB so it would recognize the cpu correctly. I used the tools provided by ECS. But when I tried to flash the MB, the programm told me the MB doesn't support flashing. Does anyone have a solution to this? The BIOS used is Amibios. I also tried their flash utility, and it tells me the same thing: MB does not support flashing.
What to do?
Any help is appreciated,
Regards Rubbie
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Friday, 12 May 2006
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| instructions SSE Bruno 18:37:18 |
| | Hi, it take loads instructions SSE year AMD Duron 1016 MHZ? Thanks.
Bruno
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Thursday, 11 May 2006
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| What is the effect of temperature on static and dynamic logic circuits in the terms of speed, power, The Truth is Out There 06:12:29 |
| | I think the subthreshold leakage current increases as temperature is raised. So, the power dissipation is increased. But, I don't know the influence of power due to the change of temperature. Please help me~...
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Wednesday, 10 May 2006
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| CPU makes high-pitched noise Anonymous_c 07:05:52 |
| | I have a VIA C3 533MHz fanless CPU. I'm using it as a server. However, when the CPU starts to do something, it emits a high-pitched noise. It's not loud, but noticeable. I can handle it -- it's no louder than my PC fans. But I'm curious as to why it's happening, and if I can stop it.
I've ruled out everything else but the CPU/mobo. I've unplugged the harddrive, but it's still making the noise. The CPU (obviously) has no fans, and neither does the PC. It's not the PSU, as I've used it before on a much beefier system (this one uses about 15W total) with no problems.
If the CPU is idling, however, there is no noise.
Anyone have a clue?
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Tuesday, 9 May 2006
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| PC industry will die because of Rambus win Ar Q 22:59:36 |
| | "Rambus (RMBS:Nasdaq - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) won a major court victory Monday, when a jury found that South Korea's Hynix Semiconductor infringed on the company's patents. A federal court jury in San Jose, Calif., found that Hynix, the world's No. 2 computer memory maker, infringed on all 10 patent claims at issue, and awarded Rambus $307 million. At issue were various flavors of memory interfaces, including DDR, DDR2 and SDRAM, used in personal computers and servers."
So Court ruled that Rambus did invent SDRAM and its derivatives. DDR beat RDRAM but Rambus got the last laught. Also, does this mean that we are back to late 90's when personal computer manufactures had to spend $500 on memory system since Rambus priced its RDRAM stick $250 each (you must use 2 together) and the price got higher every month during RDRAM's 2 year domination period?
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| Router on 64 with no IP address Richard Miller 15:39:56 |
| | I bought a Belkin router and put two computer on it and one works and the other I can't get an IP address from it which is a 64 bit computer. What can I do?
Thanks Richard
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| HDD Detection hangs Hdi 12:03:12 |
| | Hi,
I've got a old PII and wat to replace the harddrive. The new one is 80GB.
When I choose auto-detection i the bio it keeps hanging on 'detecting hard drive ...'.
How can I fix this problem?
Thx
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| Intel held an analyst day today Yousuf Khan 05:55:51 |
| | Intel held its annual analyst day today. Lots of news coverage about it. Everybody is asking what's going wrong with Intel and what Intel intends to do about it.
This article says that Intel will from now on start introducing new microarchitectures every two years instead of every 4-6 years:
Intel steps up chip cadence | CNET News.com http://news.com.com/Intel+steps+up+chip+cadence/2100-1006_3-6065925.html
Also Intel has announced that it will start restructuring its business. With possible job cuts and pairing of underperforming business groups:
"Otellini: Intel plans broad restructuring" http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Business&storyId=1517387
It's also announced a bunch of new platforms in the last little while, such as Viiv from a few months ago, and now a business desktop platform called Vpro:
Intel's vPro technology gets smarter with security - TechSpot News http://www.techspot.com/news/21452-Intels-vPro-technology-gets-smarter-with-security.html
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